b"02.04 - New Task Group ontribution to all labs participatingsendout for ballot again, with08 02 18 D 4869 Shingle Applicationin initial testing. Testmethodsfewer comments andnTerry Simmons got his results applicatioShould be in to watchusedwillfollowFMRC4470,ratesina tabledescribedasandaccordingtoourwayof teresting this one develop.UL2218,ASTM03746,ASTMapproximate.thinking the test is not stringent D5420 or any test method usingenough to discriminate as run. Joint Task Group on Hailice balls and compressed air or08 20 19 Cold WeatherTerry aske me to run the meeting d Resistance (D08, E06, Cl5,sling shot propelNo one sentApplicationin hisence, Iabsolutely no Ian!.abs got Cl7)samples toFMso nothing hasInot make the meetingwhere with it. If there is progress could It was agreed at last meetingbeen accomplished.this time.to be made Terry is going to have that manufacturerswouldsendto makeNo one resurrected the it. different materials to FM for dis- 08 02 26 Grading ofTG on hybrid Shinglesunderlayment felts MarkGrahamcouldnotbeand thetask group a4iourned the one as ed thereforthemeetingandthewith no direction. NokReportJay Crisp,meeting was cancelled. He wouldthat Ioutthe way of 226 and frolllgetof Independent Roof-.ngbehappytogivesomeoneathat was about that. chance to run with this TGnoSid Dinwiddie is asking to start but Company, Inc.one would bite. I don't look foran application stan for shdardinmuchmovementunlesssomegles. He wondered if Ibe would onant manufacturer gets hotthe idea.interested. I asked if that me08 04 42 Glass Felt PorosityNorris and Ihelp.we could find the am expected toabsolute worst Kevin Cash had very little to sayThis is going to be horrible.08 20 13 Removal ofexamples of application of extant until next time. Evidently he wasFastenersroofs and write athat standard behind with his work and closed08 02 25 D1970They have agreed to stop workaccepted the workmanship. He is the meeting almost immediately.The story now is that the wateron this guide.not sure if application standards absorption test has no value in theincorporate the lowest commor,,.,_ 08 20 14 D3617standard and that the good sheets03 20 13 Quality Assurancedenomin rnot. He isu~ ato orserioThe standard drew more nega without sand or granules will notPracticeabout the project because he said tives.Kilpatrick gotnowhere.Inow and cannot meet it. The man I did not make the meeting b there is talk of taking application ut argued that the standard needs toufacturer's people are unanimousMccorey and Flickinger are hotinstructionsofftheshingle be for QC purposes only and anythat it can be dropped or the valueon getting out aI amwrappers. standard. cuts to build aought to beraised to 3%. They asked that thesending them recordcomments. done with D2829. That will allowgroup indicate willingness to supthe standard to be simplified andport the change or the standard puts the onus on the user towill eventually get to impasse. A know something helpful when he gets tocouple of us made no guarantee thesite.I think Don may comesince Iabsorption was an thought towardmeonthis,but amnotindicator of quality modified mix. sure. I a think he will draw neg Husnu talked to me privately lsoand atives if he takes this tack, sinceassured me it was not an indicator the consultantsseem to want ain his experienceIf you have any onceweek,would complicated,akind ofinput Iappreciate hearing standard.from you. 08 20 27 Test Cuts in New08 20 17 Slopes ~lod BitDick Fricklas got beat up pretty The chairs of both Dandwel Ibecauseofeditorialtype 2829 Dhave no interest in lettingstatements that did not need to be 3617 Norris off easily (adding languagein the guideCash, ChemotowichComputer Winner: George Elli Estimating Manager ofSheet Metal &in s,B&LRoofing diffe newdrawing to the existing BUR standards),and I came at him withrentBloomington, Ind, won acomputer in aat an educational session at the MRCA Convention and Trade Show aticagoNavy Pier in October. George and and it looks like this TG is off to aexamples of the same negative. HeCh '.smem-bers ofBusiness Management Committee posed tor the camera. From left to right are~. the longandhealthylife.Dorothyfound the issue compelling andKev Krolczyk, Dalbec Roofing Inc., Minneapolis; Fred C. Naucke, Dale Crampton Com- , in LawrenceissteeringRichardnow has his document ready topany, Fort Smith, Ark.; computer winner George Ellis; and Bob Swanda, Jr., Independent-Rooting Co., Omaha, Neb. 14"